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	<title>Comments on: Homeless people and wrong expectations for AR glasses</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: make money from home</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>make money from home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Substantially, the article is really the greatest on this deserving topic. I fit in with your conclusions and will thirstily look forward to your upcoming updates. Just saying thanks will not just be sufficient, for the wonderful lucidity in your writing. I will directly grab your rss feed to stay abreast of any updates. Good work and much success in your business dealings!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dek</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Toby &amp; @david: The issue addressed here has also come up in my research into AR (startingpoint = architecture &amp; urbanism). I am really curious what will happen once we get good transparent screens and based on those, maybe even contact lenses for commercial use. I do agree that focal point issues and the complexity of the eye's working is something we won't be able to work out overnight. However creative workarounds might popup soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Toby &amp; @david: The issue addressed here has also come up in my research into AR (startingpoint = architecture &amp; urbanism). I am really curious what will happen once we get good transparent screens and based on those, maybe even contact lenses for commercial use. I do agree that focal point issues and the complexity of the eye&#8217;s working is something we won&#8217;t be able to work out overnight. However creative workarounds might popup soon.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cheney</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

it's certainly of interest to me :)   

It is clearly cheaper and easier to project on one lens than on two.  I imagine avoiding the complexities of eye tracking and convergent stereoscopy.  

I wonder about "a discrepancy between where your eyes actually focus and where your brain thinks it has to focus."  I offered an example of projection for eye focus at two meters because of the tremendous depth-of-field of the eye... viewing objects further than reading and nearer than, say, 50 meters might very well be augmented by text projected as though at two meters.   Further, the "toe-in" movement of both eyes to converge where "your brain thinks it needs to focus" might occur unchanged given monocular overlay, reducing or eliminating oculomotor disparity.

I am a novice, however, and hoping for insight shared by experts.

My background is in software engineering, visual media, and entrepreneurship and I am in the process of proposing a book on mobile AR on Android.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>it&#8217;s certainly of interest to me :)   </p>
<p>It is clearly cheaper and easier to project on one lens than on two.  I imagine avoiding the complexities of eye tracking and convergent stereoscopy.  </p>
<p>I wonder about &#8220;a discrepancy between where your eyes actually focus and where your brain thinks it has to focus.&#8221;  I offered an example of projection for eye focus at two meters because of the tremendous depth-of-field of the eye&#8230; viewing objects further than reading and nearer than, say, 50 meters might very well be augmented by text projected as though at two meters.   Further, the &#8220;toe-in&#8221; movement of both eyes to converge where &#8220;your brain thinks it needs to focus&#8221; might occur unchanged given monocular overlay, reducing or eliminating oculomotor disparity.</p>
<p>I am a novice, however, and hoping for insight shared by experts.</p>
<p>My background is in software engineering, visual media, and entrepreneurship and I am in the process of proposing a book on mobile AR on Android.</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@david: just send you my thoughts on the lens/eye/camera/screen-problem. 

if this of general interest maybe I start a discussion on it soon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@david: just send you my thoughts on the lens/eye/camera/screen-problem. </p>
<p>if this of general interest maybe I start a discussion on it soon?</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@david: I'll get back to you by mail. 

@Brooker: more text and less questions marks would be helpful. I'm sure there will be glasses out before that date and I want and will use those. but it will only be a HUD: additional information, that are location-aware. but we will not have a full AR-impression, where we can't tell the difference between CG and REAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@david: I&#8217;ll get back to you by mail. </p>
<p>@Brooker: more text and less questions marks would be helpful. I&#8217;m sure there will be glasses out before that date and I want and will use those. but it will only be a HUD: additional information, that are location-aware. but we will not have a full AR-impression, where we can&#8217;t tell the difference between CG and REAL.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cheney</title>
		<link>http://www.augmented.org/blog/2010/01/homeless-people-and-wrong-expectations-for-ar-glasses/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tobias,

Do you know the state of the practice in regard to projecting, on the inside of glasses, imagery that is mathematically transformed into the shape that it would have at the distance of the glasses from your eye, were the imaged object actually existing, say, two meters away?

That is... place a real object at two meters and look straight at it, wearing glasses.  Now, raytrace from the object to the lens of the eye, and capture the traces at the surface of the glass in front of that eye.  Remove the object, and project the captured image on the glass.  Does that resolve this issue: "the projection plane (the screen) is not the actual focus plane of our eyes"?

Danke, Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tobias,</p>
<p>Do you know the state of the practice in regard to projecting, on the inside of glasses, imagery that is mathematically transformed into the shape that it would have at the distance of the glasses from your eye, were the imaged object actually existing, say, two meters away?</p>
<p>That is&#8230; place a real object at two meters and look straight at it, wearing glasses.  Now, raytrace from the object to the lens of the eye, and capture the traces at the surface of the glass in front of that eye.  Remove the object, and project the captured image on the glass.  Does that resolve this issue: &#8220;the projection plane (the screen) is not the actual focus plane of our eyes&#8221;?</p>
<p>Danke, Dave</p>
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		<dc:creator>3dtv info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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